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We are not yet convinced that we need a specific LLM even for network operations. It may be the case, but we are not yet convinced.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"lead\">Nvidia bubble<\/p>\n<p>Zerbib agreed there was certainly a question around the need for \u201cspecial\u201d telco LLM, while adding that if these were built at the edge of the network, that would inevitably mean the need to invest in GPUs.<\/p>\n<p>While he acknowledges that AI technology in general will give the operator the efficiency to better use capex, at the same time it will require large investment in GPUs.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to come up with a business model that makes sense. There\u2019s no scenario where we build these elements before we are monetised or they are not built in partnership.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He further suggested that buying GPUs directly from Nvidia, currently one of the only options, may not currently be the best use of cash.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEverything is with Nvidia, although I\u2019m quite sure, looking at what\u2019s going on in the valley and all the hyperscalers spending huge amounts of money, that you\u2019re going to have massive competition, and so it\u2019s going to bring the price down. 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